Thursday, 26 March 2015

Czechoslovak Colors and Camouflage for World of Tanks

Author: Silentstalker


Hello everyone,

with the upcoming Czechoslovak branch in World of Tanks this year, the question that is often asked is "what will the color of the tanks be" and "are there any interesting inscriptions for the branch"? Both are very good questions - about the color first then. The option I consider most likely is some form of olive drab. Olive drab was sometimes used before the war in the Czechoslovak army. Here, we can see it on pre-war Škoda MU-4 tankette:



After the war, the color was widely adopted for the Czechoslovak army tanks of Soviet origin, although the tones do somewhat vary:



This color generally appeared on the T-54 and T-72 series as well:



No, the camouflage, that's a bit more interesting. The basic "summer" camouflage will likely be the three-color pattern. This was the most widely used camouflage on the Czechoslovak tanks of the 30's and was partially used by the Germans during the war as well (it appeared on the Jagdpanzer 38t vehicles). It consists of dark yellow, olive and brown fields and typically looks like this:



Some of the representations of this color scheme are much brighter, like the original "Aberdeen" camouflage of the American LT Vz.35 (which was brought back to Czechoslovakia and properly restored). This is how it looked on our most famous tank, the LT Vz.38:



Now, there are other options for camouflage as well - this is the Slovak LT-38 (LT-38 was the fascist Slovakia designation for LT Vz.38) in a double-tone "washed out" olive drab camouflage.


Prototypes usually came in "factory metallic grey" color - but unless we want a color very similar to the German vehicles, I think it should be generally avoided (unless anyone wants to introduce it as a camouflage). Here, we can see it on one of the first local-produced tanks, the Škoda SU prototype.



Another shade of grey would be the "factory grey, matt", but that was quite uncommon (and easily mixed with the German colors). Here you can see it on the AH-IV tankette:



And here is my favourite, the gorgeous "Vltava 1978" camouflage that can in theory serve as winter camouflage:



Czechoslovak vehicles served in foreign countries as well and those camouflages could in theory be used, but so far, these are the basics. There were much more "exotic" variants as well (I still have to scan those), should be interesting.

33 comments:

  1. I hope they will publish a czechoslovak branch ASAP

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    1. You can't say nobody because you specific don't like that idea.

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    2. The author is strongly biased in favour of czech tanks.

      But unless some freak OP vehicles are found in the tree I doubt it will have much of a following.

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    3. What is your problem? He did got damn great job and you would just know shit about the game develompent and history of tanks without his FTR. You are just some envy child and dumb hater who has nothing to do.

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    4. Hungarians,,, Czechs and Swedish are all that's left with anything major to add to world of tanks . Early war the Czechs produced some of the best armaments to the extent that they served a strong life in the British, German and Hungarian forces. The fact that a tiny little nation like that could be considered for two world powers is enough said really.

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    5. Hungarians,,, Czechs and Swedish are all that's left with anything major to add to world of tanks . Early war the Czechs produced some of the best armaments to the extent that they served a strong life in the British, German and Hungarian forces. The fact that a tiny little nation like that could be considered for two world powers is enough said really.

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    6. Why wouldn't you care? A lot of tanks are original and have Czech guns which are improved German guns. Their gameplay might be a German-Russian hybrid.

      And SS is not like a Czech-bias, because he is just as excited about the Swedish tanks getting their own tree. And admit: It's better to add 2 seperate, complete trees than to add 1 huge EU tree.

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    7. hes just mad that they nerfed his favroite tanks to obilivion that he loves seeing others upset.

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    9. Aaron, you are obviously a retard.

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    10. Czechoslovak weapon industry in the between-wars years was one of the strongest and most hi-tech in the whole europe. That is just the fact. That shit about guns and engines you just wrote is completely wrong. I admit that during the seconf world war the development was pretty restricted by germans so there have to be used only concepts and prototypes to fill the techtree on hiher tiers however look at the chinese techtree... I understand you want some progress in game mehcanics, optimizaton and graphics but the engine is pretty old and they will not change it anytime soon. The whole wot will probably die in few years and new game will be made. Some physics changes and content is everything we can expect, they dont give a fuck just like you and i dont give a fuck about that you probably hate our small country because reasons.

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    11. Sergeev you are FUNNY.

      There is only ONE (1) copy in the czechoslovak tree - T-34/100. LT-35 & LT-38 are original tanks (Pz35 & Pz38 are copies), TVP (tier 8 - 10) are originals too.

      My bet that all the Poles, who are crying "WHY WE WERE NOT FIRST?", along with Russians, will buy the czechoslovak hightiers as soon as possible too. You will see.

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  2. Actually, there are enogh czechoslovak tanks to fit intoa techtree without using copies. Maybe one or another just for the historicity, but they have enough original stuff to build their own tree. Wont be another chinese tree, we can rest assured of that.

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    1. You can say that.

      But what it will look like is the early and mid Czech tanks will be horribly similar to German tanks because history.

      And late Czech tanks would be horribly similar to Soviet tanks because history again.

      The only way that can be different is going all out mental on paper tanks and I have serious doubts even Czechs would recognise the fillers needed to make "unique" tanks for the tree.

      Sure every tree has "wtf is that tank" tanks but you need some sort of backbone to it and I'm not feeling it.

      We'll see how it goes, overbuff a few tanks and they'll be cynically popular as usual.

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    2. And when I say "German" I mean "already in the German tree" even if they were ripped off from Czech tanks to start with.

      So if introduced again as Czech tanks it's going to feel like attack of the clones again even if it's the opposite.

      Reminds me. I still want the Tetrarch in the British tree. Soviet only tank my ass.

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    3. They are not just similar they are originaly czechoslovak. During german occupation the tanks were made for german army of course. In my opinion many of the czechoslovak tanks should be just removed from german techtree. Then of course there are some soviet tank copies. T34s and later T-55s were build in slovakia.. You are right here it just the history..

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    4. Czech T-25 will be completely different though: Tier 6 with 75 mm autoloader. I would say it would be like a Panzer IV with a nerfed Chi-Ri gun.

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    5. I think wg will remove that T-25 from german tree in one of the next packs of removed prems.

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    7. FCM 36 Pak 40 doesn't have limited MM.

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    8. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vSNF1uefqPg/USDZ9DvEBWI/AAAAAAAAAOY/bysrklOj6YI/s1600/stromextended.jpg

      Just to make it easier

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    9. Bernardo, that is an obsolete version. Currently, it looks like this (this is how it's being developed)

      http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/11/comprehensive-czechoslovak-branch-3-0/

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  3. I love SS's work!!! I'm very sorry that FTR stoped, but I'm glad that SS got a real money for his work and effort. I don;t like idea of Czech tanks, but nobody love the idea of Yugoslavian tanks, so if I want Yugoslavian tanks in WOT, I must respect Czech wish to have their own branch. All in all, it's nice to read SS's article. BTW if someone thinks his articles are wrong, go ahead like TAP, open you own blog and write your own articles, that way you can give your opinion on things.

    Nah, I'll play Czech tanks, I love T-15 and T-25...

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  4. You can't really keep away forever, can you ? Have fun.

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  5. Sooo I heard Czech tree will be somewhat like a mix of German and Soviets gameplaywise, with the final vehicles having better guns but slightly worse armor than soviets?

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    2. How about nope?
      http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/26/czechoslovak-main-branch-in-wot-terms-part-2/

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    3. (Sorry if I seems like answering my own question, I simply want to confirm my memory while checking if anything has been changed)

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  6. Be interesting to see what is used for desert camo. Though WG is apparently reluctant to bring more modern schemes into the game this would seem to be one of the better options:

    http://www.smallscaleafvforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3704&sid=e452675917f945191cc4f64955543908

    This is unless something interesting used by the Slovak armored units in
    Russia comes to the surface.

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  7. Damn, those camo patters look gorgeous. Thanks for the work, SS!

    By the way, would you happen to know anything about the plans for an Italian tree? Because, as far as I know, their tanks would be tier V at most, so...

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    1. This is the best source on the NA forum for things Italian armor.

      The first entry has a plausible Italian tree:

      http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/200193-italian-tanks-and-military-vehicles/#topmost

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